Comments on: 1500 year-old ‘ Syriac ‘ Bible found in Ankara, Turkey : Vatican in shock !

By: Pinestrade

Pinestrade — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:38:38 +0000

What is happening with you people if you are true Christian bear in mind that Jesus said love God with all your heart and love your neighbors even your enemy as you love yourself and to the Muslims you cannot be a complete muslim if you will not believe in Jesus and all the prophets and the reveled books of God. Be both civilize…. Thank You.

By: Edmond Avakian

Edmond Avakian — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:27:26 +0000

I also read the last line and it does state ” by the year 1500 of Christ” word by word. So it is only five centuries old. It is most likely a property of Assyrians of Turkey. There is the word Amen enlarged next to the star of Ashoor(Assyria).

By: brettio

brettio — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:17:23 +0000

the only history worth a damn is the herstory we write today

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By: nawas

nawas — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:05:39 +0000

MISTAKE: without accepting them we cannot be complete muslim

By: nawas

nawas — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:01:35 +0000

please read quran ,hadiths and islamic stories..then you come to know that all prophets are given equal importance..but abraham,moses jesus pbut etc were time bound.with accepting them a man cannot be complete muslim..and stop writing bad about the persons who is followed and respected by a group..please study and find the truth…otherwise you will be a “LOSER”…

By: RIAZ

RIAZ — Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:32:57 +0000

why some people don’t like Mohammed (SAW),We all muslims consider Jesus as massanger and Moh;d (SAW).Please dont say bad about our Prophet Moh’d…it hurt millions of Muslims…

By: Andrew lid

Andrew lid — Sat, 21 Jul 2012 03:53:35 +0000

recently read about the prophet Mohamed,i thnk ol dat is said about hm isnt true at acording to sources,he basicaly had done ol dat jesus did! N even more! Am shockd about y ppl criticize hm,was humble n spent ol hs lyf spreadin peac n evading bad morals acros arabian,from ppls hearts,ppl should read islamic sources about hm than critisiz!!! Hez teachings r way greater!, Adeus

By: Usman Adam

Usman Adam — Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:37:33 +0000

Alhamdulillah hamdan kasiran tayiban mubarakum fi.the truth is out so the christain brothers and sisters should look into this and have faith and islam is the true religion.wasalamulaikum

By: geo

geo — Mon, 28 May 2012 01:42:16 +0000

If you say the individual is Abraham, Shiva, Bhudda, Mohammad, Krishna, Noah, David, etc….then you are all correct…they all have the same “GOD”…all are only an individual…

By: geo

geo — Mon, 28 May 2012 01:32:00 +0000

These “religions” are purely a way of life of an individual during a lifetime. Each period( cycle) of time was told in stories of that individual whom they wrote about. In each cultures, that individual was given names during the cycle or period of life. Basically throught an individuals life He goes through hardships that teaches valuable lessons. In short, the individual whose actions was the words(stories) in the religious texts was given sight to these stories and made them real in His life. In closing, that individual would be…

By: MP

MP — Sun, 27 May 2012 12:08:38 +0000

ramsar: and how do you know he wasn’t just addressing the people he was speaking to at the moment? Had it been anyone else, he would have referred to them by name.

By: ramsar

ramsar — Fri, 25 May 2012 15:29:52 +0000

Jesus was asked “What is the first commandment?” Jesus answered “O Israel…..” It is clear that he was assressing his people, the Israelites. What business the non Israel got to do with the teaching of Jesus when it’s not addressed to them? While Islam is a universal call for all mankind including Jinn! Just food for reflections!

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 25 May 2012 11:44:31 +0000

Abu Ammar: The Gospel of Barnabas is nothing anyone would be interested to follow. You have to understand that these people were followers of Jesus and not Jesus himself. If 1 billion Muslims write their version of the Koran each, who would follow? A handful perhaps. The religious are only interested in Jesus’ own words, not those of Paul, Barnabas and other conservatives. From a historical perspective it may be interesting since we are actually allowed to investigate and research, which you Muslims never really do about Mohammed’s conduct and whether he was a good or bad man, or even existed at all (where is the historical proof?). Barnabas was a Cypriot Jew. To Christianity as a whole he has no importance. In fact, if the Church would propagate cruelty and evil against people like Islam does, the masses will not respect or follow the Church.

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 25 May 2012 11:34:53 +0000

Mind – only evil people are attracted to Islam. People who love to make others suffers adore Islam. Muslims have no consciousness of goodness. You thrive on pure evil. Islam is known as sheer evil in the world. The idea that any non-Muslim country would throw themselves to Islam when some Muslim rant from 1500 years ago comes to surface is pure comedy. There is not one spot on the face of the earth that respects a Muslim. NOT EVEN ONE.

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 25 May 2012 11:31:16 +0000

asfedel – Jesus learned several languages as a child including the ancient language spoken in North India called Pali. He traveled widely across the east.

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 25 May 2012 11:28:53 +0000

asfedel – you are an ignorant joke. There are scriptures in Pali language that were written from Jesus’ sermons that are 2000 years old and were found in North India – long before your nasty little warlord Mohammed even took his first breath. There has been problems translating them because the language is forgotten. However the segments that have been translated 1800 years ago into Tibetan reveal a man who never did an evil thing to anyone, even an animal, and spoke only about love – unlike your Mohammed who was the epitome of human evil.

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 25 May 2012 11:21:47 +0000

There are much older findings than this related to the life of Jesus. All it proves is that the area where the evil Mohammed subjugated people like a tyrant to follow him, was Christian dominated. There are many extracts in the Koran which is stolen from much more ancient religions like the Jewish, Christian and Hindu faith. Mohammed was the spoilt, criminalzied and evil child of religion and the only leader who has more blood on his hand than good deeds. There is not other religion on earth that has a prophet that is an evil warlord who wants his subjects to suffer oppression, punishment and hatred. Do you find any evil prophets in Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism? NO. Only Islam takes instructions from a man who was pure evil and had no other knowledge except the plagiarism he conducted from other faiths.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 25 May 2012 11:15:41 +0000

I had to laugh! How is this goind to “shock” the Vatican or anyone else for that matter? It is created too long after Jesus died (up to 500 years) making other extracts far older and original. Iran claims this old book “proves” Jesus predicted the coming of Mohammed. So, he predicted the arrival of a warlord with a history of murders and brutality, rape of women, and incest of children who subjugated the people of Medina against their will when they considered Mohammed and his gang nothing more than highway robbers and tried to drive them out? How is that anything new? Allow me to laugh. Nothing coming from Muslim land will shake anyone up in the world. You may get slaughtered like lambs again in the near future, like we did in the past when your evil unwanted presence tried to dominate us – but apart from that no one cares or respects a single word coming from Muslims. You are known as the spawn of the devil: the most evil people on earth.

By: asfedel

asfedel — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:03:43 +0000

Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet of Allah, not the sun of Allah or any part of Allah. Muslims have never condemned Jesus or called him a criminal, in fact, any muslim who doesn’t believe in Jesus is not a complete muslim. Search every where to prove me wrong. SERPE ‘ll live to regret himself in this life and next by cursing our prophet Muh’d (SAW)he who came with the book that has been memorised by the million of muslims in arabic literature, the Language of the prohet Muhammad (SAW). I challenge you SERPE to bring a bible written in a native language of Jesus I.e Aramaic which is older than the holy qur’an and see what’s contained therein. We believe that qur’an is 1,400+ year old, so let there be bible of 1,500-2,000 year old if you dispute the one found in Turkey

By: Mind

Mind — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:13:03 +0000

The christiens leaders of the world wil never accept the gospel of barnabas because accepting it renders christianity invalid. Only the lucky ones would accept islam.

By: me

me — Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:40:48 +0000

why are there paper clips on it? why isn’t it in a humidor? why are they letting people touch it with greasy human hands? If this were real wouldn’t they take care of it a little better.

By: Abu Ammar

Abu Ammar — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:49:36 +0000

The Gospel of Barnabas is not the only Gospel which confirms most of the teachings of the Qur’an. There is also “The Shepherd of Hermas.” In 1922, a third century papyrus manuscript of “The Shepherd” surfaced, and once again it confirmed the teachings of the Qur’an, and once again, this Gospel was destroyed and hidden from the masses. During the first centuries AD., both of these books were considered authentic and canonical and preached as the true word of God.

By: Aramiler Suryaniler

Aramiler Suryaniler — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 00:27:15 +0000

Abu Ammar here is your answer against your “Gospel of Barnabas apology” http://answering-islam.org/Nehls/Answer/barnabas.html

By: Pinco

Pinco — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 08:13:33 +0000

“Shock” is an expression too often used by jounalists to people read their articles.

By: RIAZ

RIAZ — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 07:36:59 +0000

As per Quran “prophet Mohammed (pbh)”is the last & final messenger.No more clarification required for belivers…

By: Abdul Masih

Abdul Masih — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 02:59:35 +0000

Exaggerating news! Not proven yet with Carbon-14 that manuscript 1500 to 2000 years old

By: Abu Ammar

Abu Ammar — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:43:31 +0000

The clear proof of existence of the Gospel of Barnabas before Islam:

1- In 492 AD, The Pope Gelasius prohibited the circulation of forbidden books including the Gospel of Barnabas. This proves that it was exist before Islam.

2- It was written in the time when Jesus said : “I am indeed sent to the house of Israel as a prophet of salvation ; but after me shall come the Messiah , sent of God to all the world; for whom God hath made the world. And then through all the world will God be worshipped, and mercy received, insomuch that the year of jubilee, which now Cometh every hundred years, shall by the Messiah be reduced to every year in every in every place “pointing out to the fifth pillar of Islam which is pilgrimage to Mecca.

By: Aramiler Suryaniler

Aramiler Suryaniler — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:57:04 +0000

I am a syriac orthodox christian Aramean. Edessan Aramaic (also known as classical Syriac) is not only the liturgical language of the Syriac Orthodox Church and the Syriac Maronite church only.
Its also the liturgical language of the Syriac Catholic Church and the Chaldean Catholic Church and the Church of the East (renamed Assyrian Church of the East since 1976) and The Old Church of the East (established in 1968, by a minority of the former who never wanted to change the Christmas date from 6th or 7th January to 25th December. The majority did accept the Gregorian calendar date for Christmas and are known as Assyrian church of the East. Both are separate ecclestiastical organizations).
Edessan Aramaic (Syriac) has in fact three calligrapical styles known as Estrangelo/Estrangela (serto strangeloyo/serta strangelaya) and west-syriac and east-syriac. The west syriac (serto fshito/serta pshitta) is used only by Syriac orthodox , Syriac catholics and syriac maronites, while the east-syriac style (serta madenhaya/madenkhaya )is used by the Church of the East (1976 Assyrian church of the east), Old Church of the East and the Chaldean Catholic Church.
Back to the artifact: the script in the artifact is in fact East Syriac (Serta madenkhaya/madenhaya) and is therefore (if its not a fake), made by someone from the Church of the East.
Second of all the oldest of the 3 Syriac scripts mentioned above the oldest is the estrangelo that is mostly dated back to 6 AD in burialinscriptions found at Birecik (east of the upper Euphrates). Later the West-Syriac (serto fshito) script is dated back to a manuscript dated to 243 AD (vowel markings were not invented until the time of Jacob of Edessa (Urhoy, modern Urfa) (633-708 AD). And the oldest codex written with west-syriac letters is dated to 411 A.D. while the letters of the artifact are dated later.
I don’t believe the artifact to be 1500 years old nor 2000 old for the following reason a) the east-syriac script was invented at at least during the 6th or 7th century AD. b) the text itself says in syriac
Ba-shnath Alpa u Khameshma d Maran (in the year 1500 of Our Lord (Jesus Christ)

By: BVT

BVT — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:08:14 +0000

here is what’s written on the face of the bible shown in the picture:was able to read the whole phrase as it is:

“bshemmat maran pish ktiwa aha ktawa Al idateh d rabbaneh d dera allaya b’Ninweh b shita alpa w khamashma d’ maran”.so definitely written in 1500A.D

By: Aramiler Suryaniler

Aramiler Suryaniler — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:05:16 +0000

Many muslims (not all muslims) use the so called gospel of Barnabas to prove that that Muhammed was a prophet. and combine it with the Sura that speaks of Ahmad (Mhammad). But the same gospel of Barnabas also goes against things that is not there in the Quran. The Gospel of Barnabas is so fake that it contains lots of anachronisms that it smells fake. it was compose in Italian or spanish in order to syncretezise christianity and Islam as late as 1400s or 1500s AD. It doesn’t go back to the first century AD

By: Aramiler Suryaniler

Aramiler Suryaniler — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:59:33 +0000

Some ignorant person here claimed that Jesus never existed. But i can tell him that there are at least 150 sources outside the Bible itself that proves that Jesus did exist including Flavius Josephus, Roman sources such as Tacitus and others.

By: SARGON BANIPAL

SARGON BANIPAL — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 06:27:20 +0000

I am so pride that i am an ASSYRINAN and i can read whatever that is written on that BIBLE.our logo is shining on that BIBLE,i belevie it will shin in all the world again.AMEN.

By: Luke Montgomery

Luke Montgomery — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 04:13:23 +0000

This claim is a perfect example of history repeating itself as the Turkish government made the same claim in 1986. Later, it was forced to retract this claim, but the retraction never received the press coverage that the initial discovery did, so even today many Turks will claim that the Army found the Gospel of Barnabas in 1986. Now, we have another one. What is the Turkish obsession with the Gospel of Barnabas?

By: SERPE

SERPE — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 01:02:26 +0000

It proves that the region of country was a Christians territory. Unfortunatelly the turkish people with so much history and culture are still brain washed with the Cult of Islam. A cult created by a bunch of illiterate arab camel herders. A cult created by a crazy man who thought he was first the Jewish messiah and when he was rejected by the rabbis of Mecca he got angry and told his few followers to stop praying/kneeling towards Jerusalem and to start praying/kneeling towards the pagan site of the Kabbah. Muhammed and his followers robbed 2 caravans while he was a fugitive in Medina. Muhammed participated in the robbery and also killed people justifing it with the fact that he called them infidels. Anybody who did not follow his crazy commands will be killed. Muhammed also said that his favorite wife Aisha who was only 6 years old and consummated the marriage when she was only 9, making him a child molestor. Muhammed suffer from the same psychological illness of Hitler. But Muhammed was 100 times worst than Hitler. Muhammed was a Criminal. At it is a shame that intelligent people or anybody be a muslim.

By: entreri

entreri — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:37:49 +0000

@omer

go f-ind- your daughter, islam means one thing : smelly socks

By: Omer

Omer — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:01:56 +0000

just wait for the result and you all will know soon i wonder why people now more worried about their ego and dont want to accept anything agaist their believes. peple just want to believe in new testements despite ignoring the fact why the new testement came in to place on the first place? its simple people who are playing with Chritanitym just want to put things which suits them. wake up guys dont put your ego in this. just wait for the result rather then saying crap about each other.

@entreri — you’re a retard

By: entreri

entreri — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:47:07 +0000

Christianity and Islam…biggest lies in history ever..jesus is non existent and muhammed is only a above average clever dude lived in arabistan..thats it..

By: rahman

rahman — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:39:29 +0000

In hebrew bible song of soloman The last prophet mentioned by name
” Muhammadim”.And this old Bible reconfirmed that Jesus pbuh prophecised that Muhammad sm is coming to guide for whole mankind. Pope in vatican tell in your congregation to accept the truth ,Otherwise jesus will not forgive you.

By: rahman

rahman — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:35:25 +0000

Now christian should recognise thier last prophet Muhammad (sm).
La illaha illallah
Muhammad rasulullah.

By: Jimmy Molotov

Jimmy Molotov — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:58:32 +0000

Any studies to be done on it should be done in Turkey. The Iranians still haven’t recieved any of their national artifacts from the British museum. The Brits or the Vatican will want to study the Bible take it then suddenly accuse Turkey of something declare sanctions and it will lost forever.

By: Teo

Teo — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:14:13 +0000

1500-2000 years?? No way, the Syriac script was firstly used at about year 200 CE, the vowels points you can see on the Turkish codex were invented at about 800 CE, so at first sight the codex couldn’t be older than 1200 years, I believe is even newer but lets wait for some scholars to take a look.

By: Jewel Chowdhoury (Belgium)

Jewel Chowdhoury (Belgium) — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:01:50 +0000

If it is in between 1500 to 2000 years old Bible in the time of Jesus (pbh) you must find some where written the declaration of the last and final prophet for all mankind “prophet Mohammed (pbh)”. I do believe all the Christian around the globe will realize and find the true path is only ISLAM and billions will convert to Islam inshallah.

By: Harry

Harry — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:57:56 +0000

The Vatican would be nervous because not only is the language used in the book credible, but it directly conflicts with the Roman Catholic church’s belief that Jesus was the son of God and that he was the single prophet, half man, half divine – which has a severe chain reaction, the church’s long standing belief that all other religions are man made.. and so on and so forth.

Put it this way, if that book had been found by the church first, we wouldn’t have heard about it and it would be locked away in the Vatican vault only to be seen by those who believe against its words or believe that the words it reflects goes against the church’s ‘interest’.

Especially a church that today, is finding it very hard to identify and continue a strong following of the belief.

By: Romsina

Romsina — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:11:17 +0000

Here is the problem I have with this whole thing…they don’t give the Assyrians any credit historically . What are you afraid of?

By: MiniMe

MiniMe — Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:24:05 +0000

The writing at the bottom is readable. And according to that, the Book is not 1500 years old. It is rather written in the year 1500. It also says it is written by monks in a Monestary in Ninveh, which is today’s Mosul, Iraq. So it is obvious that this book belongs to the Assyrian Church of the Eact.

By: Bob

Bob — Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:29:44 +0000

Sounds like a perfect setup for the Chrislam deception…

By: elizabeth

elizabeth — Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:37:05 +0000

It is very interesting, and I am very glad that the Assirian Church of East is going to claim it. It should be returned to its legitmate church.

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:17:11 +0000

the last line reads :”pshet alpa o khmshama al maran” and that means was written 1500AD
and even it mention that it was written in Nineveh ( Mosul)

By: Tina

Tina — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 22:42:44 +0000

I am slo glad that i found.
This interesting tidbit.
and that the findings are.
Coming from Thelogians who.
have taken time to thoroughly process their findings.

Peace and Blessings TIna P.