{"id":13889,"date":"2011-09-15T15:57:15","date_gmt":"2011-09-15T12:57:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/en\/?p=13889"},"modified":"2024-02-17T01:23:51","modified_gmt":"2024-02-16T22:23:51","slug":"besiktass-carsi-fan-group-dont-mix-football-with-politics-13889","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/en\/besiktass-carsi-fan-group-dont-mix-football-with-politics-13889\/","title":{"rendered":"Besiktas’s \u00c7ars\u0131 Fan Group : Don’t mix Football with Politics"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Besiktas Fans are calm and too sophisticated to cause any problem at Besiktas Maccabi match<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

All peoples are brothers,’ Be\u015fikta\u015f’s \u00c7ar\u015f\u0131 group says ahead of Besiktas Maccabi Tel Aviv Europe League clash, which attracts much interest given the recent circumstances in Turkey Israel relations.<\/h1>\n

The game between Maccabi Tel Aviv – Be\u015fikta\u015f is overshadowed by the political tension between Israel and Turkey, which escalated after Ankara expelled Israeli diplomats over a recent U.N. report on an Israeli raid against a Turkish ship carrying aid to Gaza last year. Israeli commandos killed nine activists in the attack, while Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdo\u011fan recently called the raid a \u201ccause for war.\u201d\u00a0Since the Davos affair, then after the Mavi Marmara case, Turkey and Israel have some issues unresolved.<\/p>\n

However the football pitch isn’t the place to resolve these problems. Any racist gestures toward Israeli football club Maccabi Tel Aviv by Be\u015fikta\u015f supporters \u201cwould hurt\u201d the Istanbul club, the leader of Besiktas highly-anticipated and sophisticated \u00c7ar\u015f\u0131 fan group expressed ahead of Thursday night\u2019s Europa League clash between the Turkish and Israeli clubs.<\/p>\n

Besiktas Maccabi Game should be and is nothing more than a football game<\/h2>\n

Sports and politics don\u2019t mix — as far as Be\u015fikta\u015f is concerned. And that\u2019s exactly what the Black Eagles, as Be\u015fikta\u015f is nicknamed, will prove to Maccabi Tel Aviv when they welcome the Israeli football team to Fiyap\u0131 \u0130n\u00f6n\u00fc Stadium in \u0130stanbul on Thursday evening.<\/p>\n

“Be\u015fikta\u015f fans are people of reason,” says Alen Markaryan, the leader of ”Carsi Group”, who is of Armenian descent, but no one really cares about where he is from. He added that Be\u015fikta\u015f often found itself in “strange” fixtures, making the fans familiar with such circumstances. It is clear that there is going to be tense atmosphere. There may be some political messages \u2013 not racist ones of course \u2013 and there may be some reactions from Be\u015fikta\u015f fans,which include the situation between two nations. But that\u2019s all i think, nothing more harmful, as i expect.\u201d he went on.<\/p>\n

Besiktas Fans are calm and too sophisticated to cause any problem<\/h3>\n

Meanwhile Besiktas fans are calm and just eagerly waiting for the game between Be\u015fikta\u015f, and Maccabi Tel Aviv. Eagerly only because they are veyr hungry for what Besiktas will shov them, bad results or a magnificent result..It does not matter as long as the team shows fighting spirit.<\/p>\n

Although the assurances given by the Turkish side, security is still a problem for Tel Aviv outfit. Before the weekend, board made a decision to not to take the players, who are still serving for the Israeli army, to Turkey. \u201cWe are still waiting for the special permission, otherwise, they are not going to be able to play, because we are told that military officers are not allowed to fly to Turkey.\u201d said a member of Maccabi board, to the local newspaper. Is that the only problem? Not, of course.<\/p>\n

Besiktas Istanbul Maccabi Tel Aviv – Not Turkey vs Israel<\/h4>\n

There is another case of course. Nearly 200 Maccabi fans bought tickets for the important match between Maccabi and Besiktas. Despite the \u201cwarning\u201d declaration of Be\u015fikta\u015f board, Suat K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7, Turkish Minister of Sports, made a statement about away fans case, using the phrase; \u201cMaccabi Tel Aviv and their fans will be well received in Turkey. I promise that everybody will return home safely.\u201dIsrael government also cancelled some Turkey tours.<\/p>\n

There were some rumours ongoing about the request from Maccabi Tel Aviv board, to make UEFA to let the game play in some other turf other than Istanbul, because of the ‘unknown ‘ uncertain conditions. Maccabi board, have already made a statement about this rumour, explaining that they did not make a request to UEFA, about the match, or anything. But still, Suat K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7, explains that the match is going to be played in Turkey, no changes. If there is no request, why would a minister make an explanation like that? one thinks…Maccabi Tel aviv, citing the political tension between Israel and Turkey, had tried to fan a fire that does not exist by requesting that this evening\u2019s match be moved to neutral ground. May be Besiktas Fans will criticize solely that.<\/p>\n

In 2008, Be\u015fikta\u015f hosted Hapoel Jerusalem, in ULEB Basketball Cup, after a 15 points margin defeat in the first match. It was a harder test. The situation wasn\u2019t like this, but still it was a hard atmosphere. If some fans want to do something to the players, it is easier in a basketball match, compared to a football stadium. Nothing bad happened that day and Be\u015fikta\u015f fans have passed the ‘test’ there.<\/p>\n

Be\u015fikta\u015f fans are passionate, maybe more then any others, they try to do anything to break the morale of the opponent. But after the match, it was Man United who took the applauds, or Porto, after beating Besiktas at In\u00f6n\u00fc Stadium.<\/p>\n

These 200 Maccabi Tel Aviv fans announced that they would come to the match with gifts of candy in an effort to ease the tensions between the countries.\u00a0“We would also like to offer them gifts if security forces allow us,” fan leader Alen Markaryan told reporters. “There are suggestions [within the \u00c7ar\u015f\u0131 Fan group] that we should offer them Turkish delight and baklava.”<\/p>\n

The Besiktas \u00c7ar\u015f\u0131 group had earlier released a statement about the Maccabi Tel Aviv game, saying \u201call peoples are brothers.”<\/h5>\n

Turkish Sports Minister Suat K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7 held a news conference that same day to reassure the Maccabi entourage of their safety. The match will be played with the \u201chighest level of Turkish hospitality and Israeli players will \u2018safely\u2019 return home,\u201d K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7 said. There is another case of course. Nearly 200 Maccabi fans bought tickets for this match. Despite the \u201cwarning\u201d declaration of Be\u015fikta\u015f board, Suat K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7, Turkish Minister of Sports, made a statement about away fans case, using the phrase; \u201cMaccabi Tel Aviv and their fans will be well received in Turkey. I promise that everybody will return home safely.\u201d<\/p>\n

Be\u015fikta\u015f on Tuesday urged its fans not to cause any trouble. Board member Orhan Saka said fans should behave within the rules of \u201cfair play.\u201d He warned that Be\u015fikta\u015f could face punishment for unruly behavior.<\/p>\n

For his part, Be\u015fikta\u015f\u2019s Portuguese stand-in coach Carlos Carvalhal stated, \u201cAll along we have been wanting to play football and we have nothing to do whatsoever with politics.\u201d<\/p>\n

The match will therefore take place on Thursday as scheduled because Be\u015fikta\u015f has nothing against Maccabi and Turkish people also have nothing against Israelis. \u00a0The Black Eagles have trained very hard for this match, in which pride and prestige are also at stake. Be\u015fikta\u015f stand-in coach Carvalhal, rightfully so, warned his players against complacency.<\/p>\n

Besiktas Maccabi Game Teams News<\/h5>\n

\u201cMaccabi Tel Aviv is a difficult and well organized team which eliminated [Greek side] Panathinaikos in the previous round in the qualifiers,\u201d he said. \u201cFor us, the most important thing is that we will be playing in front of our home crowd. And the support we get from them will certainly improve team performance,\u201d he noted.<\/p>\n

Injured veteran Spanish player Guti Hernandez, energetic German midfielder Fabian Ernst and teen center back At\u0131n\u00e7 Nukan missed Tuesday\u2019s training. Fabian Ernst and At\u0131n\u00e7 could be fit by match time but Guti\u2019s presence on the pitch, suffering from severe waist pain, is very doubtful.<\/p>\n

Apart from injuries, the Black Eagles have problems with concentration, caused by the ongoing match-fixing scandal in the country in which Be\u015fikta\u015f has also been incriminated. The 2-1 away loss to Eski\u015fehirspor on Saturday was clear proof of this lack of concentration.<\/p>\n

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