{"id":106402,"date":"2012-05-02T19:22:44","date_gmt":"2012-05-02T16:22:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/?p=106402"},"modified":"2022-08-26T12:39:01","modified_gmt":"2022-08-26T09:39:01","slug":"demiroren-ve-sogancioglu-nyonda-neden-yoktu-106402","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/demiroren-ve-sogancioglu-nyonda-neden-yoktu-106402\/","title":{"rendered":"Demir\u00f6ren ve So\u011fanc\u0131o\u011flu Nyon&#8217;da neden yoktu ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-106404\" title=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/demiroren-platini-nationalturk-1001.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"610\" height=\"300\"><\/h1>\n<h1><\/h1>\n<h1>2014\u2032te yap\u0131lacak se\u00e7imde ba\u015fkan aday\u0131 olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klayan H\u00fcrser Tekinoktay, Be\u015fikta\u015f\u2019\u0131n UEFA taraf\u0131ndan 2 misli cezaland\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 belirterek, Be\u015fikta\u015f taraf\u0131ndan yap\u0131lan savunmada Y\u0131ld\u0131r\u0131m Demir\u00f6ren ve Ertun\u00e7 So\u011fanc\u0131o\u011flu\u2019nun neden bulunmad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 sordu.<\/h1>\n<p>H\u00fcrser Tekinoktay kendi web sayfas\u0131ndan yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve UEFA\u2019n\u0131n haz\u0131rlad\u0131\u011f\u0131 bilirki\u015fi raporundaki eksikliklere de\u011findi\u011fi a\u00e7\u0131klamas\u0131nda \u015fu noktalara de\u011finiyor,<\/p>\n<p>H\u00fcrser Tekinoktay&#8217;\u0131n yaz\u0131s\u0131 :<\/p>\n<p>&#8221; UEFA\u2019ya gidecek olan kul\u00fcplerin lisans alma prosed\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc uygulayan, kontrol eden ve onaylayan TFF\u2019dir.<\/p>\n<p>1-TFF \u00f6zerk olup UEFA\u2019n\u0131n alt organ\u0131 olarak T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de faaliyet g\u00f6sterir.<\/p>\n<p>\u015eimdi sizler BJK\u2019nin sundu\u011fu belgeleri onayl\u0131yorsunuz ve de \u00dcst kurul olan Uefa&#8217; ya g\u00f6nderiyorsunuz. UEFA da size lisans veriyor bu \u015fekilde kupalara kat\u0131l\u0131yorsunuz.<\/p>\n<p>Madem bir usuls\u00fczl\u00fck var o zaman g\u00f6revinizi hem alt kurulda hem \u00fcst kurulda niye ihmal ettiniz?<\/p>\n<p>Ayr\u0131ca d\u00f6nemin Federasyon ba\u015fkan\u0131n\u0131n \u015f\u00f6yle bir laf\u0131 oldu\u011funu bug\u00fcn de\u011ferli bir Be\u015fikta\u015fl\u0131 b\u00fcy\u00fc\u011f\u00fcmden i\u015fittim:<br \/>\n\u201c Efendim herkese kurallar\u0131 uygularsa T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de hi\u00e7bir kul\u00fcp lisans alamaz !\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vay vay vay bak\u0131n UEFA\u2019n\u0131n T\u00fcrkiye sorumlusu ne diyor !!!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Buna ek olarak m\u00fcfetti\u015fin raporunda \u201cDi\u011fer Kul\u00fcplerin bu alacaklar\u0131 UEFA Mevzuat\u0131 anlam\u0131nda anla\u015fmazl\u0131k konusu kabul edilemez\u201d diye a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015f.<\/p>\n<p>Ayr\u0131ca rapordaki lisans alma prosed\u00fcr\u00fcnde \u201c31 Mart 2011 tarihine kadar Be\u015fikta\u015f\u2019\u0131n Sivok ve Zapotocny i\u00e7in Udinese\u2019ye vadesi ge\u00e7mi\u015f en az 1.850.000 Euro borcu vard\u0131r\u201d maddesi var.<\/p>\n<p>Bu bor\u00e7 20 Ekim 2011 tarihinde \u00f6denmi\u015f olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen 19 Nisan 2012 tarihinde haz\u0131rlanan bu raporda bu bilgiye yer verilmiyor. Bir anlamda 7 ay \u00f6nce borcun \u00f6dendi\u011fi bilgisi olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 bu rapor eksik bir &#8216; Bilirki\u015fi Raporu &#8216; haline geliyor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Qu\u00e9 pas\u00f3 con los monos ( Maymunlara ne oldu ?)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bir de malum bilirki\u015fi Jean Samuel Leuba 2011 \u015eampiyonlar ligi yar\u0131 final e\u015flemesinde Barcelonal\u0131 Sergio Busquets\u2019in Marcelo\u2019ya yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131 s\u00f6ylem ile ilgili UEFA Disiplin Komitesine yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 raporda video g\u00f6r\u00fcnt\u00fcleri g\u00f6ndermeyip sadece yaz\u0131l\u0131 rapor sunmas\u0131 sebebiyle Busquets ceza almadan kurtarm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-106406\" title=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/h\u00fcrser-tekinoktay-nationalturk-0453.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"266\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/h\u00fcrser-tekinoktay-nationalturk-0453.jpg 266w, https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/h\u00fcrser-tekinoktay-nationalturk-0453-146x220.jpg 146w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 266px) 100vw, 266px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Oysa ki, Real Madrid Kul\u00fcb\u00fcn\u00fcn bu olaydan sonra yay\u0131nlad\u0131\u011f\u0131 videonun1:50. saniyesinde g\u00f6r\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc \u00fczere Busquets Marcelo\u2019ya eliyle a\u011fz\u0131n\u0131 kapatarak \u0130spanyolcada \u201cMaymun, maymun\u201d anlam\u0131na gelen \u201cMono, mono\u201d \u015feklinde seslenmesi a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyordu.<\/p>\n<p>2-Ayr\u0131ca 66. maddeyi kapsayan vergi bor\u00e7lar\u0131 konusu da olduk\u00e7a ilgin\u00e7 !<\/p>\n<p>Edindi\u011fim bilgi yanl\u0131\u015f de\u011filse;<\/p>\n<p>BJK Vergi dairesine gidiyor ve bor\u00e7lar\u0131n\u0131 yap\u0131land\u0131rmak istiyor. Bor\u00e7lar\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye usullerine g\u00f6re taksite ba\u011fl\u0131yor ve devletten borcu yoktur ka\u011f\u0131d\u0131 al\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p>Bu ka\u011f\u0131d\u0131 dosyaya koyuyor. Madem bu evrak usuls\u00fcz UEFA alt organ\u0131 TFF vergi borcuna istinaden taksitlendirme var m\u0131 baks\u0131n ve BJK\u2019y\u0131 ikaz etsin bu olmaz diye!<\/p>\n<p>Be\u015fikta\u015f\u2019ta Tabata\u2019ya, Iverson\u2019a, \u0130smail K\u00f6yba\u015f\u0131\u2019na \u00f6deyece\u011fi paray\u0131 vergiye yat\u0131rs\u0131n!<\/p>\n<p>Ba\u015fka bir husus T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Devlet ve Kul\u00fcpler aras\u0131nda kanunen baz\u0131 yak\u0131nla\u015fmalar\u0131 sa\u011flayan mevzuatlar vard\u0131r.<br \/>\n\u00d6rne\u011fin Kayserispor\u2019a devlet stad yapar\u2026 ;<\/p>\n<p>20.000\u2019lik Ali Sami Yen\u2019i al\u0131r kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131nda 55.000 \u2019lik stad verir.<\/p>\n<p>Trabzonspor\u2019a devlet eliyle imkanlar sunulur.<\/p>\n<p>Bazen bu al\u0131\u015f-veri\u015flerde vergi bor\u00e7lar\u0131 silinir. Kul\u00fcplere vergi 1 kereye mahsus denilerek vergi aflar\u0131 gelir.<br \/>\nAyn\u0131 \u015fekilde, kriterlerin uygulanmaya ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131 2004\u2019den beri kupalara kat\u0131lan tak\u0131mlar\u0131n bor\u00e7lar\u0131 g\u0131rlad\u0131r!<br \/>\n\u015eimdi di\u011fer kul\u00fcplerin lisans al\u0131p son 8 y\u0131lda bu kupalara kat\u0131lmalar\u0131na ne demek gerekir?<br \/>\nUEFA\u2019n\u0131n Be\u015fikta\u015f\u2019a verdi\u011fi bu ceza \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131rd\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p>Ve yeni y\u00f6netim nedendir ki \u2018\u2019ceza alacak bir sebep yoktur, konu muhasebe tekni\u011fi ve m\u00fckerrer \u00f6deme \u00f6nlemleridir\u2019\u2019 diyen konunun muhatab\u0131 Ertun\u00e7 So\u011fanc\u0131o\u011flu ve ge\u00e7en d\u00f6nemin sorumlu BJK Ba\u015fkan\u0131 ve \u015fimdiki sorumlu TFF Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Y\u0131ld\u0131r\u0131m Demir\u00f6ren ile beraber UEFA\u2019n\u0131n kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131na \u00e7\u0131kmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r?<\/p>\n<p>\u015eimdi 5 y\u0131l i\u00e7inde bir futbolcunun \u015fikayeti halinde BJK\u2019ye verilecek 2 y\u0131l men cezas\u0131 sorgusuz sualsiz uygulanacakt\u0131r.<br \/>\nBunun vebali o zaman kimde olacakt\u0131r?\u2026<\/p>\n<p>140 Karakter cevap verebilecek var m\u0131d\u0131r? &#8221;<\/p>\n<!-- Error, Advert is not available at this time due to schedule\/geolocation restrictions! -->\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>2014\u2032te yap\u0131lacak se\u00e7imde ba\u015fkan aday\u0131 olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klayan H\u00fcrser Tekinoktay, Be\u015fikta\u015f\u2019\u0131n UEFA taraf\u0131ndan 2 misli cezaland\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 belirterek, Be\u015fikta\u015f taraf\u0131ndan yap\u0131lan savunmada Y\u0131ld\u0131r\u0131m Demir\u00f6ren ve Ertun\u00e7 So\u011fanc\u0131o\u011flu\u2019nun neden bulunmad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 sordu<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":683,"featured_media":106404,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6774,6155,5005,6194,6805],"tags":[1748,53162,98800,98802,39881,98801,98687,5161,17641,36092,847,98688,2269],"class_list":["post-106402","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-futbol","category-gundem","category-manset","category-spor","category-turkiye","tag-besiktas","tag-besiktas-avrupa-kupalari","tag-besiktas-rapor","tag-besiktas-raporu","tag-besiktas-uefa","tag-besiktas-uefa-disiplin-raporu","tag-denetleme","tag-ertunc-sogancioglu","tag-hurser-tekinoktay","tag-sabah","tag-uefa","tag-uefa-besiktas","tag-yildirim-demiroren"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/106402","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/683"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=106402"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/106402\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/106404"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=106402"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=106402"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=106402"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}