{"id":285773,"date":"2020-02-01T13:05:23","date_gmt":"2020-02-01T10:05:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/?p=285773"},"modified":"2020-02-01T13:05:23","modified_gmt":"2020-02-01T10:05:23","slug":"ensar-vakfina-giden-bagisin-serefiyesi-kizilayin-olsun-istedik","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/ensar-vakfina-giden-bagisin-serefiyesi-kizilayin-olsun-istedik\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Ensar Vakf\u0131\u2019na giden ba\u011f\u0131\u015f\u0131n \u015ferefiyesi K\u0131z\u0131lay\u2019\u0131n olsun istedik&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>K\u0131z\u0131lay \u00fczerinden Ensar Vakf\u0131\u2019na yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 8 milyon dolar ba\u011f\u0131\u015f ile g\u00fcndeme gelen Torunlar Holding\u2019in sahiplerinden Mehmet Torun \u201cBen bu ba\u011f\u0131\u015f\u0131n \u015ferefiyesinin K\u0131z\u0131lay\u2019a kalmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyorum. Madem yanl\u0131\u015ft\u0131, K\u0131z\u0131lay kabul etmeseydi\u201d dedi.<\/h2>\n<p>Mehmet Torun, d\u00fcn Habert\u00fcrk yazar\u0131 Muharrem Sar\u0131kaya&#8217;n\u0131n sorular\u0131n\u0131 yan\u0131tlad\u0131.<\/p>\n<p>Sar\u0131kaya&#8217;n\u0131n &#8220;K\u0131z\u0131lay\u2019a yard\u0131m\u0131 veriyorsunuz. K\u0131z\u0131lay Ensar Vakf\u0131\u2019na aktar\u0131yor; o da T\u00dcRGEV\u2019e aktar\u0131m yap\u0131yor. Neden dolayl\u0131 bir y\u00f6nteme ba\u015fvurdunuz. Neden do\u011frudan vermediniz?&#8221; sorusuna &#8220;Bizim buradaki muhatab\u0131m\u0131z Ensar Vakf\u0131\u2026 Kamu yarar\u0131na \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan bir vak\u0131f oldu\u011fu karar\u0131 bulunan bir vakfa ba\u011f\u0131\u015f yapmakla K\u0131z\u0131lay\u2019a ba\u011f\u0131\u015f yapmak aras\u0131nda hukuki ve ekonomik a\u00e7\u0131dan bir fark yoktur. Derdimizin herhangi bir ekonomik menfaat olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 ba\u011f\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131 olmam\u0131zdan da anla\u015f\u0131lmaktad\u0131r&#8221; yan\u0131t\u0131n\u0131 verdi.<\/p>\n<p>Sar\u0131kaya&#8217;n\u0131n sohbetin devam\u0131nda y\u00f6neltti\u011fi sorular ve Torun&#8217;un bunlara verdi\u011fi yan\u0131tlar \u015f\u00f6yle:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Fark vard\u0131r, birinde vergi s\u0131f\u0131rd\u0131r, di\u011ferinde ancak y\u00fczde 5 k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131 ba\u011f\u0131\u015f yapabilirsiniz.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>K\u0131z\u0131lay\u2019da matrah\u0131n\u0131z kadar\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015fersiniz, di\u011ferinde kurum kazanc\u0131n\u0131n y\u00fczde 5\u2019ini d\u00fc\u015febilirsiniz. Y\u00fczde 5\u2019ini a\u015fan k\u0131sm\u0131 vergiye tabidir. Yani 100 milyon liral\u0131k bir kurum kazanc\u0131n\u0131z varsa 10 milyon da yard\u0131m yapm\u0131\u015fsan\u0131z, bunun 5 milyonu vergi d\u0131\u015f\u0131d\u0131r, geriye kalan 5 milyonu ise vergiye tabidir. Takdir edersiniz ki bizim kazanc\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131 bu y\u00fczde 5 oran\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7ok rahat kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor. Biz K\u0131z\u0131lay veya Ensar olsun hangisine yaparsak yapal\u0131m, matrahtan indirece\u011fimiz k\u0131s\u0131m ayn\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Diyorsunuz ki K\u0131z\u0131lay ile Ensar\u2019a ba\u011f\u0131\u015f yapma aras\u0131nda hukuki ve ekonomik bir fark yok. O zaman neden do\u011frudan kendilerine yapma yerine dolamba\u00e7l\u0131 yol izlediniz? Siz K\u0131z\u0131lay\u2019a, K\u0131z\u0131lay Ensar\u2019a, Ensar da T\u00dcRGEV\u2019e. Bu da \u201cK\u0131z\u0131lay Keyman Adas\u0131 m\u0131?\u201d ele\u015ftirilerini yarat\u0131yor. Buna ne diyeceksiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bizim buradaki d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncemiz \u015fu; K\u0131z\u0131lay ile bizim ba\u015fka ba\u011f\u0131\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z da var. Bu i\u015fin \u015ferefiyesi K\u0131z\u0131lay\u2019a ait olsun. Ba\u011f\u0131\u015f da bizden kaynaklans\u0131n istedik. Yoksa biz kendi param\u0131za ne gibi bir \u015fey d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnebiliriz. Zaten para bizim. Yani ba\u015fkas\u0131n\u0131n paras\u0131 da antin kuntin yapal\u0131m, aradan g\u00f6t\u00fcrelim diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc s\u00f6ylenebilir. Ama para bizim. Bizim antin kuntin i\u015fimiz olmaz.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ama kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z ara\u00e7 kamunun ortak referans noktas\u0131 olan K\u0131z\u0131lay\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Kamunun ortak de\u011ferine halel getirecek bizim bir d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncemiz de eylemimiz de yok. Kamunun de\u011ferli kurulu\u015funun arac\u0131 olmas\u0131, yani \u015fartl\u0131 ba\u011f\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131 kurumda K\u0131z\u0131lay ad\u0131 ge\u00e7iyor. Bizim ad\u0131m\u0131z ge\u00e7miyor. Yani \u015ferefiye diye bir \u015fey vard\u0131r. Caddenin bile \u00f6nde olan\u0131n\u0131n bir \u015ferefiyesi vard\u0131r, iki sokak arkada olan binalar\u0131n bile farkl\u0131 \u015ferefiyesi vard\u0131r. Bunun d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda ba\u015fka bir ama\u00e7 varsa bunu \u00e7\u0131ks\u0131n biri s\u00f6ylesin.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sadece \u015ferefiyesi K\u0131z\u0131lay\u2019\u0131n olsun mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ba\u015fka bir \u015fey yok. Biz 15 Temmuz sonras\u0131 ba\u011f\u0131\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 daha \u00e7ok K\u0131z\u0131lay \u00fczerinden yapma karar\u0131 ald\u0131k. Bu bizim bir ilke karar\u0131m\u0131z\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>K\u0131z\u0131lay Genel Ba\u015fkan\u0131 sizin &#8216;vergiden ka\u00e7\u0131nmak i\u00e7in yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131&#8217; s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor. Size b\u00f6yle bir su\u00e7lamas\u0131 var.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vergiden ka\u00e7\u0131nmad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131m. Buyurun i\u015fte. Bu \u015firketler ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z denetim ve uluslararas\u0131 ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z denetim \u015firketleri taraf\u0131ndan da denetlenen \u015firketler. Benim keyfiyetimle y\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fclen \u015firketler de\u011fil. Sorumlulu\u011fumuz var burada. Bir ba\u011f\u0131\u015f yapmak yani %22 kurumlar vergisinden indirim i\u00e7in ba\u011f\u0131\u015f yapmak gibi bir iddia akla s\u0131\u011fm\u0131yor. Yapaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131z ba\u011f\u0131\u015f matrahtan d\u00fc\u015f\u00fclece\u011fi i\u00e7in sadece y\u00fczde 22\u2019lik k\u0131sm\u0131ndan indirim al\u0131rs\u0131n\u0131z. Kalan matraha da y\u00fczde 22 uygulars\u0131n\u0131z. Bunun 8 milyonun vergi getirisi 1 milyon 600 bin olur. \u00d6deyece\u011finiz vergiden de %5 d\u00fc\u015fmezsiniz. Vergiye tabi kurumlar vergisi diyelim 100 milyon lira ve 10 milyon ba\u011f\u0131\u015f yapt\u0131ysan\u0131z bunun ancak y\u00fczde 5\u2019i kadar\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015febilirsiniz. Yani 5 milyon liray\u0131 100 milyondan d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcp, 95 milyon \u00fczerinden vergi \u00f6derseniz. Bizim i\u00e7in bunun 5 milyonun \u00e7ok \u00fczerinde bir rakam s\u00f6z konusu. 100 milyon olsa bile 5 milyona kadar vak\u0131flara ba\u011f\u0131\u015fa zaten kanun izin veriyor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ne kadar vergi verdiniz? 2017\u2019de tahakkuk eden vergi matrah\u0131 ne kadard\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Hat\u0131rlam\u0131yorum, ama d\u00fc\u015febilece\u011fimiz y\u00fczde 5\u2019in \u00e7ok \u00fczerinde bir rakam. 8 milyonun \u00e7ok \u00fczerinde bir rakam. Ensar\u2019a yapsayd\u0131k, matrah\u0131n y\u00fczde 5\u2019ini d\u00fc\u015fecektik; matrah\u0131n y\u00fczde 5\u2019i zaten var bizde. Biz \u00f6deyece\u011fimiz vergiden 8 milyon dolar\u0131 d\u00fc\u015fmedik, matrahtan d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcyoruz. Onun i\u00e7in bir yere ba\u011f\u0131\u015f yaparken vergi boyutunu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcyor, vergiden \u00e7ok daha fazlas\u0131 cebinden \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>O zaman niye K\u0131z\u0131lay?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>S\u00f6yledim i\u015fte\u2026 Bir \u015feyi de\u011fi\u015ftirmiyor. Ba\u015fkent Gaz\u2019\u0131n vergiden ka\u00e7\u0131rma gibi bir durumu yok zaten\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>T\u00dcRGEV\u2019e 31 ev alm\u0131\u015fs\u0131n\u0131z zaten, neden do\u011frudan yard\u0131m yapmad\u0131n\u0131z?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Uygun g\u00f6rm\u00fcyorum, buna cevap vermeyece\u011fim\u2026<\/p>\n<!-- Error, Advert is not available at this time due to schedule\/geolocation restrictions! -->\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>K\u0131z\u0131lay \u00fczerinden Ensar Vakf\u0131\u2019na yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 8 milyon dolar ba\u011f\u0131\u015f ile g\u00fcndeme gelen Torunlar Holding\u2019in sahiplerinden Mehmet Torun \u201cBen bu ba\u011f\u0131\u015f\u0131n \u015ferefiyesinin K\u0131z\u0131lay\u2019a kalmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyorum. Madem yanl\u0131\u015ft\u0131, K\u0131z\u0131lay kabul etmeseydi\u201d dedi. Mehmet Torun, d\u00fcn Habert\u00fcrk yazar\u0131 Muharrem Sar\u0131kaya&#8217;n\u0131n sorular\u0131n\u0131 yan\u0131tlad\u0131. Sar\u0131kaya&#8217;n\u0131n &#8220;K\u0131z\u0131lay\u2019a yard\u0131m\u0131 veriyorsunuz. K\u0131z\u0131lay Ensar Vakf\u0131\u2019na aktar\u0131yor; o da T\u00dcRGEV\u2019e aktar\u0131m yap\u0131yor. Neden dolayl\u0131 bir &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":285774,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6155,5005,6805],"tags":[203419],"class_list":["post-285773","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-gundem","category-manset","category-turkiye","tag-ensar-vakfi"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/285773","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=285773"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/285773\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/285774"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=285773"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=285773"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nationalturk.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=285773"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}