Finnish Foreign Minister Haavisto: “We will not change anything in our legislation”

Finland’s Foreign Minister Haavisto clearly rejects this accusation in the tagesschau24 interview.

ARD: Turkey has given up its opposition to your country and Sweden joining NATO. How relieved are you?

Pekka Haavisto: We had very long talks last night. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was there, as was Sweden’s Prime Minister Magdalena Andersson and NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg. It was a very difficult conversation. The important thing is that we finally came to an agreement. We addressed problems such as arms exports and the PKK terrorist organization – and in the end we found a solution together with Turkey.

ARD: In your opinion, was that the decisive point for Erdogan to surprisingly give in?

Haavisto: There were many problems that were on the table. In the end, this focused primarily on counter-terrorism – and also Turkey’s will to strengthen cooperation against the PKK, which of course is also a banned organization in Sweden and Finland. It is a terrorist organization and it is of course clear that we strongly condemn its activities.

“More information sharing”

ARD: Now you are being accused of being too accommodating to Turkey. For example, they want to examine the extradition of people who are suspected of being terrorists in Turkey. And we know how the country treats political prisoners. Was the deal actually worth that price?

Haavisto: We talked a lot about extradition. There have already been many extraditions to Turkey from the Scandinavian countries and we have agreed that we will strengthen our cooperation, that we will exchange more information between our authorities. But in terms of our legislation, we are not changing anything – and that is also very clear from the memorandum.

ARD: In your history you have had to go through painful experiences, not least in the so-called Winter War of 1939-1940, when Soviet troops attacked Finland out of nowhere. So how has Finland looked at its big neighbor since then?

Haavisto: At the moment we are of course very concerned about Russia’s war against Ukraine. We share 1300 kilometers of common borders with Russia. For over 100 years we have tried to keep this border peaceful. If we look to the next 100 years, we want to continue to keep the border peaceful. I think that Finland’s membership in NATO will benefit our security and also the European Union.

“Traditionally very strong army in Finland”

ARD: Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has threatened that he will even station nuclear weapons on the border as soon as Finland joins NATO. How concerned are you that Russia could attack Finland?

Haavisto: One of our concerns in the current situation is of course this conversation about unconventional weapons. The talk in Russia is about nuclear weapons and chemical weapons. Finland traditionally has a very strong army. We’ve got thousands of reservists, new F-35 fighters. But of course people ask what happens when we are threatened with unconventional weapons: How do we react then? How do we defend ourselves in this case? So how do we respond to these hybrid threats and also to the cyber threat? How do we counteract this?

ARD: And what is your answer to that?

Haavisto: Our answer, of course, is first of all to take our own security into our own hands. Our traditional defense is very strong. And if we make military plans in the future together with NATO, then it’s about protecting our territory and protecting all Scandinavian countries. We have also deepened military cooperation with Sweden. And I am very glad that we made this decision together with Sweden to apply for NATO membership. It is very important that we work together bilaterally and on a Scandinavian level.